There is SOME counselling, but it's still woefully inadequate and carries a certain stigma with it. Spend some time reading up about mental illness and especially depression.". ', 'I did not think she was suffering a relapse at the time although it did not occur to me. Plus, in Japanese society, past and present, there is NO stigmata (sic) on suicide. 0 Comment. The ability to comment on our stories is a privilege, not a right, however, and that privilege may be withdrawn if it is abused or misused. The inquest heard that on New Year's Eve, Ghanaian husband Mr Yabani returned from working as a church Minister to find his two young sons alone in the flat. By I wonder what happened ? An unidentified woman was injured when she jumped in front of a southbound No. Suicides usually choose JR over other lines as 100kph trains thunder through the stations. I'm sure they're terribly rattled, though. Woman is left 'looking like Rose West' thanks to unflattering Tory Eurosceptics could take TWO WEEKS to decide whether to back Rishi Sunak's Brexit deal for Northern Watch as shoplifter puts BACK products he's trying to steal after live CCTV hub tells him: 'You're being Is YOUR lifestyle good for your heart? We had a discussion about having another child, I told her we had two wonderful children and I did not feel it was necessary to have a third and I thought she agreed,' the heartbroken husband said. Zdenka kept her third pregnancy a secret from her husband for five months, the coroner heard. things will always get better especially if you change the way you live. JapanToday There are many selfish ways of committing suicide which involve pain or difficulty or 'meiwaku' for others (actually the English contains a nuance not in Japanese, ie of committing a crime, so perhaps 'ending your own life' might be a better way to phrase it than 'committing suicide'). The posts that are concerned about the effect on others (the people who were injured, the people who had to witness what happened, the families that have to cope with the aftermath, etc - No, I don't think expressing concern for those people is selfish. Following the pregnancy news, the mother-of-two decided she didn't want to deliver her third child at Wexham Park Hospital, instead wanting to transfer to the Royal Berkshire Hospital in Reading, yearning for a different experience from her first two births, the coroner heard. Plus, in Japanese society, past and present, there is NO stigmata on suicide. Subsequently, a train slows to a halt on the tracks. Some subway lines were rerouted. Fax: +81 3 5829 5919 Surely "taking it out" on someone implies intent Smorkian? According to police, the woman, Premalatha of Senthil Nagar in Urapakkam, had quarrelled . Zara's husband announces a two-month tour with his rugby podcast 'We met a Princess'! If the person can redirect their thoughts to include others, they're more likely to realise that things aren't that bad and so less likely to actually commit suicide. A 35-year-old man allegedly died by suicide by jumping in front of a suburban train in Maharashtra's Thane district, a police official said on Thursday. Many would feel they are losing face by going to a counsellor, that that's a sign of weakness. Of course, when you have spiralled into the pit of depression and all capability for rational thought has gone, it is not possible to see it that way. Thoughtless, yes. I was trying to get rid of her sadness.'. HP10 9TY. Its a mistake. Should donate blood on a regular basis and visit third world poor countries to put life in perspective. Cleo -- aecho11 says it all. isnt there a more peaceful way and less scary way to commit suicide? A very great part of the problem though, is that people simply withdraw, something very easy to do in society nowadays. 09:48 GMT 16 Nov 2020. It might not get better. Jeremy Clarkson is axed as Who Wants To Be A Millionaire? To his horror, later that evening Zdenka walked through the door, doused in diesel fuel. Prince Harry boasts about finding 'freedom and happiness' and jokes about reincarnation in unseen TV Behind-the-scenes at fashion week with the Spencers! In this case I'd bet she didnt want anything more than what she got. Don't you think that's part of the problem here guys? , updated Do you know how much money her family is going to have to pay to the train company for this? Loan compamies that are often yakuza-backed and will hound someone no end.) Swiftly after, the couple received a letter from the Overseas Department stating they would have to pay to transfer hospitals - which sent Zdenka's mood spiralling, assistant coroner Alison Mccormick heard. The woman, believed to be in her 20s, was seen lunging into the path of an oncoming No. Reports suggested that the woman was accused in a case. Have some compassion for the victims here. (Thanks to Ben Orlove for the tip.) Morre and more we see a lack of empathy for those who suffer.Modern society? While it is a sad event, the method in which she did was selfish to say the least. 'This is a gesture or activity which appears to have shown deliberation and forethought. I think most people sadly have had some kind of contact with mental illness and/or suicide by the time they reach "our age". If you must kill yourself, put your affairs in order first and choose a method that doesn't leave a gory mess. This woman has, through her actions, seriously affected many others. True, suicide is seen as selfish in many parts of the world, but most of those who think this (even myself sometimes) cannot even begin to understand what makes a person contemplate let alone choose such a route. NDTV delivers reliable information across all platforms: TV, Internet and Mobile.Subscribe for more videos: https://www.youtube.com/user/ndtv?sub_confirmation=1Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ndtvFollow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ndtvDownload the NDTV Apps: http://www.ndtv.com/page/appsWatch more videos: https://khabar.ndtv.com/videos?yt - 140 15 . Expect delays on 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 trains. That said, to declare that her act was selfless is a little much. If it happened to your loved one would you like them to be called "selfish" and other nasty words? Meaning that I don't believe that Japanese people, generally speaking here, take things like this in the same manner as many if not most westerners do. alot of people do this to make other people suffer & have regret. Of course people who witness this are traumatised and i don't think anyone would deny this. I also very much doubt that she was in any kind of logical state of mind when she did this. Suicide is complex, but without a doubt, there needs to be FAR more done here for mental illness. The victim was pronounced deceased at the scene. Giving evidence at the Berkshire Coroner's Court in Reading, Mr Yabani explained that the pair moved to Slough in 2007 after he accepted the role of Minister at St Andrews Church and Zdenka was pregnant with their first son. 'Her movements around the station, going from one side of the station to the other, going down to the station and back up, was an unusual pattern of behaviour. OZONE PARK, Queens A woman was killed after she jumped in front of a train Friday morning, policesaid. Pathologist Dr Rezan Guardi confirmed that the woman died from multiple injuries. Just weeks before her tragic railway death, the family of four had returned to their flat in Merton Road, Slough, Berks., following a 'wonderful' Christmas spent with friends in Manchester and Scotland. 'I noticed a woman in a white jacket back away and start running across the platform.'. Train-related accidents may not be common, but they occur in New York City. In this case I'd bet she didnt want anything more than what she got. papigiulio: "why do people consistently suicide by jumping in front of a train? Terrible and selfish. theres Thousands of Japanese who "dont fit into society" & they are fine with it & Don't care. Yesterday Mr Yabani said: 'She kept saying 'this country doesn't want me' and 'nobody wants me here. If you are screwed up, go into that forest at the foot of Fuji and do us all a favour PS - don't wanna sound callous, she may have been mentally sick, but it's possible this selfish woman has destroyed other people's lives. EXCLUSIVE: Lanzarote sticks to its guns and insists it WILL limit tourists and move away from relying on Nearly half of British viewers believe ethnic minorities and LGBT communities are over-represented on TV, Is YOUR wood burner at risk? A woman died after jumping in front of a Brooklyn-bound L train Friday night. Northbound 3 trains are running local from Times Square-42nd Street to 96th Street. 1) Trains are of course very common, and very frequent, and in the case of express trains very fast. The week a train derailment poisoned an entire town in Ohio, the transportation secretary, the man in charge of preventing train derailments, held a press conference attacking White construction . Her mom went crazy, started shoutingfortunately she stopped her, grabbed her hand and took her away. Cleo-summed it up best. Maybe we should ask ourselves how could we do that instead of pointing the finger? The loco pilot managed to stop the train and both of them escaped with injuries. With 35.000 suicides per year, it is not the lady who had a problem, but the society which is inducing people to suicide. They charge millions of yen for stoppages, extra work, etc She died at the scene. I doubt the woman calculated the angle of bounce. But before that can even happen, the stigma in society of seeking help needs to be broken. As a subscriber, you are shown 80% less display advertising when reading our articles. "There was no criminal activity. I hope to hear from you. I am not trying to be rude but making statements like "taking it out on others" is ridiculous. Samaritans | Every life lost to suicide is a tragedy | Here to listen. A few reasons, I would imagine, although of course I'm also at a loss as to why people feel the need to off themselves. Northbound 3 trains are running on the 5 line from Nevins Street to 149th Street-Grand Concourse. Sorry to sound flippant, but every life lost is (often) another 3,4,5 scarred. On Monday afternoon, a woman in her 20s, whose name has not yet been released, died when she was struck by Amtrak Train 93, according to rail officials. I always wonder if train jumpers are so frustrated w/ society, that this is their final, middle-finger salute. She was seen wrapped in a poncho walking hand-in-hand with daughter Melsadie, who was wearing alittle furry parker jacket with a winter hat and gloves, at the station one hour and 12 minutes before their deaths. A suicide note has also been recovered by the police. Seems the bottom line in some of these posts is "I don't care about you or what you do, just don't inconvenience us.". When do the clocks change in 2023? All trains should be like Namboku line - no stress there. Suruga bank provides a variety of services including onlinebank accounts and loans, speciallytailoredto foreign customers living in Japan. I am even more glad like i choose to work from home, never socialse anymore and just be with those who matter. Compassion is free. She would have known this if she had been thinking about it previous to the act, but did it anyway. I personally think the whole 'ganbare' and 'I must not make a scene' are partially to blame. A 28-year-old woman jumped in front of an approaching train at the Metro Rail Transit (MRT) Shaw Boulevard station in Mandaluyong City before noon yesterday. The comments below have been moderated in advance. Kiosk and bystanders apparently unhurt. "Why couldnt I help?" I don't care what people say about Trains its a very painfull way especially if you survive. 2. I wouldn't be surprised if some of those injuries were from bone fragments or other parts that came off from the impact. Japan has a major cultural flaw. 'Had police been observing her, they would have approached her because of her behaviour.'. 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We want our comments to be a lively and valuable part of our community - a place where readers can debate and engage with the most important local issues. why? Bad decision on her part. I would liek to see an awareness programme for people to understand mental illnes, depression and suicide better. Not one of you seem to consider that maybe this woman had fallen into depression due to the current situation caused by TEPCO or the Earthquake / Tsunami. We know her well enough to know she ended her life in the most selfish way possible - by traumatizing many people forced to witness her death, not to mention those injured. When the temperature gets hotter,many people do strange things they would not have done in a normal situation. 'On the day she had received news that some of her debt burdens had been relieved, if she had entered into a payment agreement which she did, and she was supposed to have started a new employment so her financial situation was potentially going to change.'. Mr Wade asked the officer: 'I think your financial investigator looked at whether she had made a voluntary arrangement in terms of indebtedness through court proceedings. She was caring and a good mother. The Government try to hire more psychologists, but they are never enough; they address the symptoms, but eventually miss the root cause of the problem. 1. MoriNoHogosha; very brave of you to come here and post how you feel.Suicide is seen by many as a dirty and nasty thing. 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Had police been observing her, they would have approached her because of her behaviour., The coroner said: At this stage, Melsadie is becoming rather frustrated and upset with her. Cut her some slack. 6 IRT train at the station at 68th Street and Lexington Avenue at 12:01 P.M. yesterday, transit authorities said. . the person was sick of mind. I like Cleo's comment about those contemplating suicide, taking time to get their affairs in order and as a ancillary benefit, truly sitting down to evaluate and think. The traditional way was to jump off a cliff. The Japan you do not see everyday up there in the mountains is incredibly stressful. I will never regret having her in my life.'. DS Rees agreed that Melsadie was 'behaving well' and did not 'appear to be demanding' until the mother and daughter were seen leaving the station. These adverts enable local businesses to get in front of their target audience the local community. 'Is it right that the outcome of that was she had an arrangement whereby she would be able to repay it down by monthly 143 contributions?'. Join the leaders of English Education for Children in Japan! Japan Part of the Daily Mail, The Mail on Sunday & Metro Media Group, She jumped onto tracks atTaplow station with daughter on February 18, 2019. Sign up for free Patch newsletters and alerts. Steve's right! I think it is wrong and low class to criticise someone who found that this was the best thing for them. 13, 2011 - 05:52PM JST Please show her and her family some respect. Now, I have said and will continue to berate the system here for their lack of help not only for people thinking about suicide but for mental disorders and illness in general, and the fact that there is still a lot of stigma is disgusting. Of course she didn't. She had to have felt some pain there. I did not say her actions are good and i do sympathise with others effected by her actions.If anyone critcises are suggest she should have done something else, stop now. She was seen 'pushing' and 'kicking' against a gate to the platform. This woman was obviously highly coordinated, had excellent timing and gymnastics ability. She may simply have chosen this route because of her belief that it would both end her suffering and take the burden of supporting her away from society and/or whatever family she had. Put up the fences and legalize suicide so people will go for a needle rather than a train. 'We were aware that pregnancy was a difficult time for her in terms of her mental health. There are organizations and individuals out there that are trying to deal with this societal problem, but I think it takes a very special type of person to be able to tackle this head-on. I dont believe that the people who saw what happened really have registered in their minds what they saw. Cleo - would you agree that the definition of selfish could also be applied to the people here who are lacking in consideration for someone who was pushed to the ultimate extreme of taking her own life? If you have a complaint about the editorial content which relates to In . They don't realize how much of a mental block depression puts on a person. Take the quiz: How well do you know LIV Golf? Seems like a lot of people still need to learn about mental illness. "fit into society"?! Paying tribute to his late wife, Mr Yabani added: 'Zdenka was a lovely woman, I was blessed to have her in my life. British Transport Police had declared the deaths a suspicious incident and an investigation was launched by their Major Crime team. Some say the most efficient way is to jump into an active volcano. why?". According to CCTV footage, she was waiting for the train's arrival and at 3 pm, she jumped in front of a running train. You can reach out and feel 'connected' to the world and to people via the myriad social streams available, but that doesn't feel to me like real engagement. Ms Redmond eventually came to a platform which was cordoned off to the public. The eight-months pregnant woman bought herself a ticket before running across the platform and jumping in front of a non-stop intercity train which sped through the station at 115mph - instantly . ( ) A. bad B. badly C. good D . If she'd had someone to listen to her - really listen - this might not have happened. while tragic, her act delayed thousands of people. 'It was completely out of the blue, it scared me. Southbound 2 and 3 trains are running local from 96th Street to Times Square-42nd Street. Please look at the time stamp on the story to see when it was last updated. On January 8 2018, the husband took his two children to school and returned home to find the paperwork for the transfer of hospitals lying on the computer keyboard, before he discovered his wife had thrown herself in the path of a high speed train, tragically killing her and his unborn daughter. To be honest I think this choice of suicide is partly due to the 'normalcy' - it is a very common way that the next person might follow the same way regardless of why or whoever else gets pulled into it, but also it could be like giving a middle finger or a big **** all you to society, because it was society that let the person down?? Just imagine buying bottled water in a train station, than suddenly get hit with blood and body parts. The eight-months pregnant woman bought herself a ticket before running across the platform and jumping in front of a non-stop intercity train which sped through the station at 115mph - instantly killing her. 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